i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
Different points of view?!?! If there is a fire in the building, there are no "different points of view". There is only one - out the fire escape!
N.Drew, we are not talking about sunday morning brunch conversation here - this is a matter of life and death!!
Yes, I have a problem with different points of vew if they obscure the only true solution.
What am I arguing? The above^^^^^
Ya'll got an answer?
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
Do you know that humans are to love one another and practice mercy? If you know that then you have "heard" the concise message.
A lot of people in China and India love one another and practice mercy. Are they Christians?
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
Different points of view do not satisfy you Yan Bibiyan?
Different points of view?!?! If there is a fire in the building, there are no "different points of view". There is only one - out the fire escape!
N.Drew, we are not talking about sunday morning brunch conversation here - this is a matter of life and death!!
Yes, I have a problem with different points of vew if they obscure the only true solution.
Do different colors upset you? Oh, they are opposed to one another. Can you give me one example?
This is about the reddest or herrings I've seen. Come on, stay on topic, don't put words in my mouth.
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
This is trolling.
Wonder why you think so?
Did you see "Jewel of the Nile" the movie? What do you think of the people who reverenced the Jewel?
My opinion of a motion picture is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
The issue in the title of this thread remains open.
If someone could do that would it compel you to listen and learn from him? Isn't what someone teaches more important than what someone performs?
Probably, if the teaching wasn't presented in more than 30,000 versions, often diametrically opised to one another.
What's wrong with setting the record straight once and for all? Yes, in our lifetimes please.
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
God would then break His own law. "Do not make an image"
No problem, send Jesus, it will be equally effective. Just bribng some "proof" for the sceptics like take a dash across the lake, part some body of water before us, turn few unbelievers to salt, etc...
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
Which God did do with Adam and Eve. The rest of us are the children of the children of the children (etc) of Adam and Eve. (even if you think Adam and Eve only represented the first of us)
Have to disagree again.
Children are removed from their parents' custody for a reason.
If the parents are incapable of providing proper care, let alone if they are endangering the life or the wellbeing of the children by their incompetence.
Child services (or whatever the local equivalent) don't just sit back and wait it out hoping for the best.
ever heard of this church ?.
example: http://rcg.org/articles/abcc.html.
very similar reasoning to jw,...
Holy crap,
These peoples have totally ripped off the JWs! They have embraced technology, though and don't seem to be hiding their history.
watchtower: registered in england as a charity!?.
http://bestcharity.info/watchtower-registered-in-england-as-a-charity/.
bangalore.
Brits-only affair!
Well, I'd like a cup of tea with milk and ginger, please. And a pint of Guiness.
I can be a Brit, see?
(Not profiling here, for the record. Just recalling great memories of working on a fruit farm near Canterbury in the early 90-s)
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
Yes, I make sure my children hear me.
How? By talking to them directly, or by hoping that they somehow heard you accross the room over the overwhelming volume of the surrounding noise?
What I cannot do, however, is speak to their children if they prevent their children from seeing me... unless those children choose to come and get to know me once they are adults and have that ability despite their parents wishes.
Sorry, not buying it. You have unlimited powers.
Did you do EVERYTHING in your power to convince their parents (and maybe their parents' parents) that you mean well? Like showing up in person, sitting them down and talking to them?
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
That is the problem dear Yan.
No, the problem is that Jesus is watching and apparently not givinig a damn about 7 million souls giving their all to the wrong cause...He has not exhausted ALL options of telling them that they are wrong, has he?
I bet if Jesus appeared at the public talk on Sunday and frankly told the story in few words, there woun't be one active JW on that same Sunday.
